"Next time...": Massimo Giannini terrified by AfD, catastrophism on La7

Trump and Putin "like each other instinctively. Donald is moody and not strategic, Vladimir is much more so." At Tagadà, on La7, Tiziana Panella ranges easily with her guests, the former director of Tg3 Antonio Di Bella and the editorialist of Repubblica Massimo Giannini, from Berlin to Washington, back and forth.

Di Bella emphasizes how Meloni's intervention on Ukraine "coincides with the position of the New York Post, a conservative newspaper, which made a cover headline "Putin is a dictator", then recalling in 10 points with Douglas Murray, who is an ultra-conservative, that a) Ukraine was attacked, b) Ukraine is a friend of the West, of Europe and also of America and c) even for America it is useful to have Ukraine as a friend and dangerous to have Russia as a friend. So in some fashion Meloni is following in the footsteps of conservatives worried about Trump. And this seems like a good thing to me".

"Yes - replies the perplexed host Tiziana Panella -, I have never heard the name Zelensky in the words of Giorgia Meloni. Is there a sort of balancing act?" Massimo Giannini confirms Panella's thought and then goes on to discuss the elections in Germany and the boom of AfD and Alice Weidel.

"The turnout is the fundamental component to understand why the oil spill has not broken the dam. In the last two weeks hundreds of thousands of Germans have taken to the streets to say no to the neo-Nazi drift. The mobilization was useful but the oil spill is there, the sky above Berlin is gray. Now AfD has doubled its votes, but next time..."

Obviously, according to Giannini, the USA-Germany parallel is a must: «There is a perfect coincidence between the two social and economic situations, there are areas of hardship in which the penultimate fear that the last will take away their rights and jobs. The perfect breeding ground for the populist right that is spreading from America throughout Europe. And we still hear Meloni attacking the elites... But who are you?». Another question would also come to mind: but who are Scholz, the SPD and the left, reduced today to historic lows.